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- <title>
- Sep. 06, 1993: Interview:Mikhail Gorbachev
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- <history>
- TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1993
- Sep. 06, 1993 Boom Time In The Rockies
- </history>
- <article>
- <source>Time Magazine</source>
- <hdr>
- ENVIRONMENT, Page 53
- "Man Is Not A God"
- </hdr>
- <body>
- <p>By Eugene Linden
- </p>
- <p> Mikhail Gorbachev
- </p>
- <p> At the Global Forum in Kyoto, Mikhail Gorbachev talked with
- TIME senior writer Eugene Linden.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Why is it that no other world leaders have adopted this issue?
- </p>
- <p> A. All policymakers are preoccupied by current politics, the
- scarcity of resources, etc. The fact that all of them came to
- the Rio Summit, however, means that politicians are beginning
- to understand that we have reached a watershed in our relationship
- with the environment. Last November, 1,500 scientists, including
- 100 Nobel prizewinners, stated at a conference that if things
- go on like this, within decades our biosphere will suffer irreversible
- damage. I think this realization will change the way politicians
- think.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Will it take a global disaster before the rest of the world
- takes action?
- </p>
- <p> A. We are already moving toward global disaster with the speed
- of a bullet train.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Do you think that the measures the world has undertaken are
- too little too late?
- </p>
- <p> A. I think you are right. I know from my own experience what
- it means to do too little too late. I know the results. If you
- translate that into global terms with regard to the environment,
- we can have irreparable consequences.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What are the most serious problems facing humanity?
- </p>
- <p> A. We must change behavior and models of consumption. Humanity
- must reject self-deification. Man is not a god who owns nature.
- Man is part of nature. We must also recognize that productivity
- is not keeping pace with population growth, but when we look
- at ways to regulate population, it must not come from government
- but from new values. People must come to accept smaller families:
- I am very much against any use of force in this issue.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What would you have done had you remained in power?
- </p>
- <p> A. I would have above all continued reforms. The only way to
- fix things is to move from totalitarianism to democracy. Only
- a free, confident people can inpolicymakers.
- </p>
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- </body>
- </article>
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